April 11, 2007

Quick recap of the weekend

I didn't play much poker this past weekend, as I had stuff to do to get ready for my daughter's 2nd birthday. I played 220 hands on Sunday evening and only won a few dollars, but at one point I was up a buy in. Early in the session I had command of the table by being aggressive pre- and post flop. I also picked off a nice bluff from a short stack who shoved with air.

Then all of a sudden the dynamic on the table changed after a few people replaced the passives, and I should've left as well. The table got very aggressive and I didn't adjust to this. To be honest, I don't really know what adjustments to make. Is it correct to sit back and wait for big hands? They don't come around that often so it's pretty transparent when you start raising them post flop. Or do you open up your 3 betting range? I find it hard to do at $25NL, or I just haven't done it enough to feel comfortable. If I ever want to get to the next level I'm going to have to figure this out. Good luck on the felt.....

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ok,

So you were having fun with the fish, right? They are gone.

These people, more aggressive, might be better than you at this point. I think you can be better than them.

What you need to is play YOUR OWN cards a little bit more. If there are agro players that are constantly raising preflop..When you are in position you can cold-call occasionaly with 22-TT and 3bet with JJ+ AK, maybe AQs.

Do not attempt to outplay them. K

Knowing when to make good plays takes experience against good players. This is one of the problems i have when I move up in limits.

AT $25 NL...just play straight forward. Play your hands. Be aggresive and pick up pots and have a good image and pwn them bitchesss....

Post Specific Hand Histo'S asshole, you have PT right? (i dont :-) )

NeonBlack said...

If the table is loose, play tight. As villianmo said, they may be better than you, so you can't get in there and play with them with marginal or speculative hands. Loose, aggressive players usually play a pretty good post-flop game, even at this level, so until you get really comfortable with yours, it's best to leave them alone. Position is everything in this type of game. Don't play anything less than high PPs and AK from early position, and come in for a higher than normal raise when you do. You can loosen up a little when you have position, but don't overvalue your hands unless you flop gin. You also have to pay very close attention to these players. If they turn out to be donks who just want to gamble, wait for your monsters and stack them. They aren't paying attention to the fact you haven't played a hand in 45 minutes. If they show a good post-flop game, just get out and find a better table. You can stay and play for the experience, but don't expect to come out a winner.

Anonymous said...

I dont agree with raising higher with big hands. You raises should be the same from any position with the exception of some squeezes or tons of people in the pot with big hands or when your putting someone in.

He can continue to open a decent range of hands in position and stick to 66+ and AJ+.

This is a decent range when you are playing against some more experienced players, I believe.

NeonBlack said...

I keep forgetting he plays 6-max most of the time, so I'll have to defer to your better judgment on hand selection. I never play 6-max. When I said to raise more than normal, I meant more than the normal 3x BB, and not just with big hands, but all the time. If the table is aggressive, I think a higher than normal raise (say 5x-6x) helps thin the herd and makes them pay a little more when they miss. It also helps to build a bigger pot for when you hit your big hands. I should have been more clear, sorry about that. And, again, this comes from my experience at full ring cash games, so if 6-max is different in this regard I don't know. He's tried to get me to try 6-max, but right now I'm more comfortable with the lower variance of the full tables. And yes, he does need to post HH's :)

John said...

OK, in my next post I will have some HH's, as I know you are easily entertained by them, MO. I am of the school that you should raise the same amount no matter what, if you're opening. Neon, you really need to play some 6 max. I have found that the fish are easier to ID and you get to play more hands against them. That's what it's all about. Felting the fish. Also, by raising in 6 max you can buy the button if the tighties are to your left so you have absolute position more, thus a bigger advantage. You can't get that in full ring. With your patience I don't think it would take you long to adjust. Besides, you've played a ton of 6 max S&G's so just do it already. I don't rregret it one bit.

John said...

Also, by keeping the PF raise the same you don't give away the strength of your hand, or give them a tell-tale sign that you're stealing the blinds. You don't want your opponents paying attention. That will cost you money in the long run. Keep them guessing what your raises mean and you will profit more, IMHO. When I lose focus, or stop paying attention I lose money, as you'll see in my next post. If the table is aggro and you start to raise more than normal chances are very likely that the villains will start looking you up.

Anonymous said...

exactly,
all your raise should mean is "i have a hand"

it keeps people guessing.

as for 6max: fish tend to migrate there because the action is much more fast pace than ring.